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Poster: hippie64 Date: May 2, 2010 12:02pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: 11-23-1970

gonna do that then (dl 17361) because # 1, 4734 has barely any down speed 3-5 kbs ?? , for 5 seeders thats not much. Or that could be because of all the deselected files in the huge part 8 torrent.
And #2 If 17361 is the full show then that's for sure what I want.

Last question, Was 11-16 on the same reel as 11-23? And that's how they were combined? Or could it be everyone was dosed for a solid week and just lost track of time? haha.
No? I think I understand now, but still can't unlock my brain and explain it to myself, I know I'm being thick, Thanx for explaining that, helped alot :-)

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Poster: DeadRed1971 Date: May 2, 2010 12:53pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: 11-23-1970

I don't think there ever was a SBD reel for 11-23. Remember, Bear was stuck in CA, thanks to John E. Law, and Betty Cantor-Jackson wasn't doing SBD recordings then. The famous 11-8-70 Capitol Theatre show, and having only the Ken & Judy Lee aud as the best recording highlights this. If the in-house crew hadn't done them (SBDs), then there would be none here today. It has already been established by other recordings on the Archive that Fillmore East recorded their shows from the board. I don't know much about the Anderson Theatre, other than it was some old Yiddish playhouse used for a short time for rock concerts. I'd have to assume like most venues of the day, the only recordings were from bootlegs.

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Poster: Cliff Hucker Date: May 2, 2010 5:29pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: 11-23-1970

It is possible that a 10 minute soundboard clip of a performance of Good Lovin' from 11/23/70 may have once circulated at some point.

Both Deadbase and The Deadhead's Taping Compendium list a performance on 11/16/70 with a performance of Good Lovin' with Jorma sitting in. The compendium actually has a review of a poor quality (partial) 10 minute SBD clip of this music by Michael Getz:

"Jorma steps back in with more abrasive, dentist chair leads...It's as if he's expressing himself while an angry hornets nest is trapped inside his underpants."

I think it's pretty much certain that the music circulating with Winwood sitting in (wih possibly Chris Wood and Will Scarlett or Jack Elliot as well) is in fact from the Fillmore East performance on 11/16/70.

However there is enough evidence that the Dead did in fact perform a Hell's Angels benefit at the Anderson Theatre on 11/23/70. Jorma and other members of Hot Tuna sat in with the Dead during several performances around this same time period (11/11/70 and 11/20/70 for sure). Since there has been so much confusion over these dates (11/16 and 11/23)it's plausable that the soundboard clip of Good Lovin' described both in the compendium and Deadbase could be from 11/23/70...

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